IK Racing - Bloody Snakes.

[Fuin Elda]

HELLO MY SECOND FAVOURITE KINGDOM TO PLAY IN!!!!! ITS IK RACING QUESTION TIME!!!!


You can go HERE To vote on your prefered schedule for the season and get the basics of how it will work.

THE big questions for you is what colour and animal do you want

You were PREVIOUSLY Vana Red a nice burgandy darkish red this is the closest I could come (#800000). And you raced with Snakes. (not lava snakes just snakes)

The question is. Do you want to continue with the snakes and the red? Do you want to change? If so please hold a vote in this thread I'll keep an eye on it you know me. And I will be highly disappointed if this warning is needed but I'm gonna give it to you just so you can't say I didn't tell you. The bottom row white to the bright yellow, right off limits not allowed I have a hard time reading it I'm not suffering for IK racing lol. The colours directly above those 5 are legible to me, BUT could prove difficult for some members of NuPlaza and are not recommended.

Cheers and we hope to see you at IK racings Test Race coming up as mentioned in the Schedule thread!


AND again you don't need to sign up and call what races you'll be at, you just need to show up to the races themselves and participate.

[Moriel]

My bias is obviously towards Lava Snakes, but with LSR being a rotational game in Mordor that all can play, not just minions, do we perhaps switch to a different creatures? Some potential options:

Snakes other than Lava, as before
Wargs
Crebain
Spiders
Centipedes

[The Good Hunter]

Gonna echo Moriel here and say I biased toward lava snakes (especially those that turn into Hobbits) but if we do different creatures I'd go with Crebain or Spiders for logistical purposes, or Centipedes for evil purposes.

[Fuin Elda]

@Vampire Bob Sadly Lava snakes is a different form of racing from this one, so we may want to keep the animals different (Lava Snakes for LSR and standard snakes for this one as Lava Snake Raving will not count towards the IK racing championship)

[The Good Hunter]

@Fuin Elda don't worry, I know the differences between the types of races, I was simply echoing Moriel's love of lava snakes.

[Silky Gooseness]

I’m not really bothered hugely about the animal type, although I feel like centipedes would have the disadvantage of being crushable and eaten by badgers; but #800000 looks like a code easy to remember on mobile...

[Winddancer]

Surprised you didnt go with spiders Frost! :O

I would say pick an animak that is roughly the size of a badger/racoon. A ferret maybe (Like the viscious Georges), I know that is fairly smaller though. Though Imladris seems to be cheetahs, so wargs would match that. There is also opposoms and foxes.

[Moriel]

Ohhhh we could BE the Georges!!

[Winddancer]

[Silky Gooseness]

Bats, don’t forget bats

[The Good Hunter]

Quick thonk. What if, given Mordor’s variety of races, we simply use all the options we posted above? Spiders, bats, wargs, crebain, georges, foxes, snakes, centipedes, etc. in the end, I don’t think uniformity is all that important

[Winddancer]

Well.. we are the rebels..

[Zôrzimril]

Bats bats bats

But also I really like the freedom to choose any and every creature!

[The Good Hunter]

Now that I think about it, what about creatures that were once racing snakes but were transformed by semantics into a Hobbit? Would Jorgy be able to race?

[Zôrzimril]

My admittedly biased vote is “yes”

[Fuin Elda]

Foxes belong to Lothlorien. So you get a no on that one as most other kingdoms are still very much enamored with their creatures - and have already had a non Lothlorien member state that if they race they want to race for Lothlorien as a fox.... Sooo there is that. (except for maybe Imladris because Cheetahs? But maybe that's just me)

[The Good Hunter]

Rules are meant to be broken. As the only person on NuPlaza who actually plays a fox, I feel I have just as much right to play him in a race as the 5 people from Lorien

[Dimcairien Luiniel]

I really do think the idea of IK racing would work better as a free-for-all. Have 2-4 teams depending on how many people decide to show up and pick your animal from the selection of prior kingdom animals. That way we have enough participants and everyone gets to race as the animal they desire. Maybe have a “home team” in the vague sense of the thread needs to be hosted somewhere. Like many people have said, there aren’t enough people to have proper IK events.

[Moriel]

It would be very minion of us to say our team animal is whatever animal each of us feels like showing up with

[Fuin Elda]

Don't tempt me I'll call you team Squishy. That's the LOTRO nickname for the wargs/spiders etc in LOTRO you can choose but you're all squishy lol

[The Good Hunter]

You could call us that, but I have a feeling that might not end well. Never played LOTRO but I can guarantee you spiders and wargs are not squishy, not 'round these parts at least.

[Moriel]

But if we were Team Squishy we could be jellyfish, which are deceptively squishy and can kill you with one tiny touch of their cute little tentacles.

[Fuin Elda]

I will be impressed if team Squishy of jellyfish does well since most of these races tend to be on land. Actually what would be hilarious would be chickens. They are honest to goodness small angry dinosaurs and I have seen a chicken in Mordor

And honestly @Vampire Bob What are you gonna do wiggle your pretty little palps or your tail at me? Pretty sure I have DM safety as the IK race Moderator

[The Good Hunter]

Oh honey...

[Silky Gooseness]

that chicken is due for a roasting.
We’re nothing to do with LOTRO though

[Fuin Elda]

I realize that it was a joke since you guys can not seem to pick a creature - and is the only singular word that I know of that is LOTR related at all in terms of 'evil creatures' even if it is not cannon or from here.

So far the vote for keeping a set animal/colour is tied and as the runner of it I'm going to cast my vote to that side as it's what I would like to do. As such I think we've already picked out the colour @Sil has stated it's an easy colour for her to use on mobile. I do ask you pick out an animal for the test run which will be starting in 2 days. It doesn't NEED to be the same animal you use in the actual races but I do want to see if it works. If it doesn't work then the animal portion will lilkely change.

Thanks.

[The Good Hunter]

I think we did reach a consensus among minions though, we want to play an assortment of spiders/wargs/bats/snakes/etc because Mordor is far more eclectic than any other kingdom and our “animal” should reflect that.

[Fuin Elda]

And I am asking you to choose 1 for the test run, Mordor does not get to be special when every other kingdom picks 1 creature.

[Moriel]

It seems to me that in the main thread in AM, no consensus has been reached about teams and animals. Whereas in this thread, the minions at least seem to be in agreement about the idea of having a variety of creatures on our team. Is there some structural or procedural element you’re adding to racing that relies on each team having a single type of animal, or something like that?

[Winddancer]

Admin hat off here, just the minion me! <3

If you have already decided what you want, then just set that up, please don't give us the illusion that we can chose, cause we did chose and now you are saying we can't have that. :/

I realize that it was a joke since you guys can not seem to pick a creature - and is the only singular word that I know of that is LOTR related at all in terms of 'evil creatures' even if it is not cannon or from here.

So far the vote for keeping a set animal/colour is tied and as the runner of it I'm going to cast my vote to that side as it's what I would like to do. As such I think we've already picked out the colour @Sil has stated it's an easy colour for her to use on mobile. I do ask you pick out an animal for the test run which will be starting in 2 days. It doesn't NEED to be the same animal you use in the actual races but I do want to see if it works. If it doesn't work then the animal portion will lilkely change.

Thanks.

Where is this vote? I know I havent voted for anything just yet? The only vote I saw was the AM one and that was for months to race, I left that as I dont mind one way or the other.

[Fuin Elda]

Admin hat off here, just the minion me! <3

If you have already decided what you want, then just set that up, please don't give us the illusion that we can chose, cause we did chose and now you are saying we can't have that. :/


Where is this vote? I know I havent voted for anything just yet? The only vote I saw was the AM one and that was for months to race, I left that as I dont mind one way or the other.

I asked for you to choose an animal, not to go and say we want to be whatever we want when the moment strikes us. If you look at the first post you can see clearly that it says colour and animal. Not animals and it never has said plural creatures. So please do not say that I am only giving you an allusion of choice I very much did set it up for how I wanted it to run and then only in this thread did it completely disrail from that. I am simply asking that you do only pick one rather than say 'we want to be everything' when I am still allowing members of every kingdom to chose WHICH kingdom they've decided to represent (So if Vampire Bob wants to play a fox he needs only race for Lothlorien that month, and he can race for another different month) I have also stated if it DOESN"T work in the test then I will be okay with figuring out something different.

As for the vote it was suggested in here that we go to vote for if there should be a set animal or not in here, some suggested multiple animals in here others suggested to go to AM. I am taking into account all the threads on that regard as lets face it many even when urged to post in the AM thread have instead made their voices heard in their own and I am fine with that I do not find it hard to track all the threads.

You're welcome to have your voice heard however I will admit I assumed very much that you would be in line with Moriel and Vampire Bob. If you are not I do apologize for assuming such based off your previous post. YOu are welcome to voice that opinion either hear or in the AM, obviously saying the same thing twice in both will still only count as one 'vote' as it were.

[Moriel]

I hope it's clear that my admin hat has also been off for this thread- just a minion hoping to have some IK racing fun!

I think we're lacking input from across the board in this thread due to all of the individual kingdom threads and the discussions happening there. Perhaps you could remind everyone in those individual threads to come here and give their opinions on whether we should do kingdoms/drafts/no teams, so that all the relevant structure discussion is happening in one place?

This was the post I made in the AM thread suggesting that the discussion be brought there. Nowhere did I, or anyone else I can see, actually put forward a VOTE on the subject- people have been discussing and putting forward their thoughts and opinions, but no vote has actually been had. If you would like a clear cut vote, which may be the easiest way to resolve the question, I suggest you make another poll. If you don't want a vote, and just want to make decisions for IK racing yourself/based on the discussion that has been that, then do that. But don't say there was a vote when there hasn't been one.

You may not find it hard to track all the threads, but there are -necessarily- many more people than you interested in IK racing, and everyone deserves to be fully informed and involved in the discussion and vote, if those things are going to exist.

[Fuin Elda]

Apologies' I should say opinions on the matter rather than vote

You're right there has been not true 'vote' just people opinions that have been taken into account.

[Winddancer]

Surprisingly we are actually not being obtuse about the choice of animal, nor greedy. We are 100% being minions. There would not be a single animal that all had access to, we would be looting stealing and kidnapping whatever we could, be it a George from the pub or a rat off the docks. Each orc and troll would just pick whatever crawled across their face at the time and try to get that to race for them.

As you can see, all the ones interested in the race are all heavily serious roleplayers so it is with that in mind that we were talking about picking whatever could be found in Mordor that we could steal. It was not meant as a way to piss you or anyone else off.

I really don't see it being a problem as long as none of the chosen animals are the same as the other kingdoms and is something that can be found in Mordor.

And you assume correctly, though that is dangerous to do with a minion ;), I indeed feel the same as what has been said here. We have asked for whatever critters are in Mordor, if that is not what you want then you might just have to assign one to us.

[Fuin Elda]

IF that is the case I think I may have an answer to that role play wise in my op of the test race that I was hoping to carry into the actual season if it worked. I will admit I've been working on it so that it gives a reason why minions would indeed have all the same 'species' at least (though subspecies inside that would be up to the minion) because that issue did make sense to me with the RPers in Mordor hopefully it is one that the you minions enjoy. As I too am a fan of RP and having a good reason for things to be the way they are.

[Winddancer]

Is it a secret what it is?

[Fuin Elda]

It's how I plan on setting up the races RP wise . Short of sharing the race OP there probably isn't going translate well but the basics are that I plan on having both people able to bring their own of the set species, as well as some 'race league provided animals' for those wishing to have a racer that would not have access per say to that specific species. For example it'll be awfully hard for say a minion to get a fox, or coney... not many of those in Mordor and if they want to race for another kingdom, it's nice to have access to ALL the different kingdom animals so there would be obviously a stock of the Mordorian critters of choice available.

[Winddancer]

Uh, not sure I understand.. so you are saying we can have all the critters?

[Silky Gooseness]

I’m not entirely certain what’s going on either but are you envisioning like a rental booth perhaps where people could get hold of creatures that wouldn’t be “native” to their regions?

[Fuin Elda]

Okay guys time for a new task for Mordors racers (might even give yourselves a bit of a leg up with this)

I invite you to help come up with questions for B rolls (we are making the switch to A/B rolls to keep that from getting confusing)

They need to be generic enough any racer can deal with them, but you are welcome to include bits of lore, or mention other activities in Mordor. I shall then shuffle them all into my Google Document for IK racing.

Our next race will likely be January with the start of the IK racing season. (Simply because I don't want to run another test in December as I don't see it being very well attended) So lots of time for coming up with questions.