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Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:00 pm**

Tantalizing Trivia Quiz

Welcome to our Tantalizing Trivia Quiz!

Inspired by the Basic Lore quiz thread started by halfir. The rules are set-out below and I will kick-off the Quiz with the first question.

Rules

One person asks a question, another answers and then waits until the previous questioner verifies it. If it is correct the person who answered it may then ask a question.
Questions should only be taken from The Hobbit, LOTR, The Silmarillion, and Unfinished Tales.
Questions should be fun and require some effort, but essentially should be of a nature that a basic knowledge of the specified books can answer.
Answers need not have detailed page references as to where the information can be specifically found, but both a book and chapter title reference must be provided, and the answer validated by the questioner.

N.B. Please note the first question is in the following post.

Posted: **Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:01 pm**

Tantalizing Trivia Quiz

Question 1

Who ate two whole loaves (with masses of butter and honey clotted cream) and drunk at least a quart of mead?

Posted: **Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:17 am**

Gandalf! (The Hobbit, 'Queer Lodgings')

Sadly, @Romeran, I don't think there are enough of us to sustain the game. But if my answer is correct I will ask (a version of) the question I remember asking on the Old Plaza.

Posted: **Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:54 am**

@Chrysophylax Dives correct!

You’re right that there may not be enough, but I removed the time constraint so as long as some people look it ought to keep moving a little bit maybe.

Posted: **Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:55 am**

I shall play. One never knows what new fact may be discovered. Two or three players are better than none. I will ask Windy to remove this post not to clutter your thread.

Posted: **Sun Jan 23, 2022 12:17 pm**

Yay! So, this was the question I asked years ago, but on reflection it might not count as 'basic' (all depends where in Middle-earth you most like to hang out):

Where would you go for what is (or was) the best beer in the Eastfarthing?

Posted: **Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:06 pm**

Why, the Golden Perch at Stock according to Pippin. TFOTR, A Short Cut To Mushrooms

Posted: **Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:39 pm**

:) Correct.

Posted: **Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:13 pm**

Who received a jewel red as fire upon a band of gold that came from a King?

Posted: **Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:57 pm**

Ulbar's wife was given a jewel red as fire upon a band of gold by Aldarion who had received it from the king of the elves (Gil'galad). Unfinished Tales, Aldarion And Erendis (my favorite story in UT).

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:46 am**

Correct, Romeran! Yes, it is one of my favourites too.

Posted: **Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:52 pm**

If I'm honest though, I started looking up quotes about Narya before remembering that part.

Question: who bowed low when he saw he was looking upon one who had elven-blood in his veins?

Posted: **Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:07 am**

Legolas upon seeing Prince Imrahil?

Posted: **Wed Jan 26, 2022 12:21 am**

Legolas looking upon Prince Imrahil is correct. You're up

Posted: **Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:40 pm**

Thanks!

Question: Who wrote papers lettered in scarlet and black?

Posted: **Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:37 pm**

The Númenóreans.

"Many things there were of beauty and power, such as the Númenóreans had contrived in the days of their wisdom, vessels and jewels, and scrolls of lore written in scarlet and black." (The Silmarillion, Akallabêth)

Posted: **Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:56 pm**

Right you are!

Posted: **Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:11 am**

Maybe I should have given more time for others to chime in it was a good question.

Question: Who wanted to row away in a gilded boat?

Posted: **Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:43 am**

How about The Master of Laketown?

Posted: **Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:14 am**

Moriel wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:43 am How about The Master of Laketown?

Moriel, book and chapter required!

Posted: **Fri Jan 28, 2022 8:19 am**

Whoops, sorry! The Hobbit, ch 14 Fire and Water

Posted: **Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:58 am**

I forgot too. *bows* TROTK, The Last Debate

Posted: **Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:03 pm**

Oh hah yeah whoops lol.

Yep master of laketown is correct @Moriel you are up

Posted: **Sun Jan 30, 2022 8:18 am**

Huzzah!

Question: Who said that sleep and rest had been banished from the Earth?

Posted: **Sun Jan 30, 2022 12:24 pm**

A: Lorien and Este (The Silmarillion: Of the Sun and Moon)

Posted: **Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:23 pm**

@Boromir88 Correct! Over to you

Posted: **Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:21 pm**

Thank you, @Moriel. It helps when you’ve recently been reading The Silm. :)

Q: How many palantiri did Isildur escape to Middle-earth with?

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 12:52 am**

A. Two of seven.

"Many treasures and great heirlooms of virtue and wonder the Exiles had brought from Númenor; and of these most renowned were the Seven Stones and the White tree. [...] Three Elendil took, and his sons each two. [...] They were called the Palantíri, those that watch from afar, but all those that were brought to Middle-earth long ago were lost" (Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age, The Silmarillion)

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:37 am**

Floor is yours @Romeran :)

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 2:13 am**

Problem with answering questions is now I have to think of a good question.

Question: Which king was utterly unprepared to meet a charge of chariots?

Posted: **Wed Feb 02, 2022 4:31 pm**

Looks like maybe we need a hint.

Question: Which Gondorian king was "utterly unprepared to meet a charge of horse men and chariots in great weight?"

Tolkien only mentions chariots in these texts (LotR, TH, Sil, UT) a very small number of times. This is the occasion they come up the most.

Posted: **Thu Feb 03, 2022 10:36 am**

King Narmacil II (ROTK, Appendix A. (Sorry, I got distracted by Riddles in the Dark in The Shire)

Posted: **Thu Feb 03, 2022 4:34 pm**

It is not King Narmacil II although it's a very close relative of his. I'm looking for a specific reference to being "unprepared to meet a charge". RotK Appendix does talk about the Wainriders using chariots and that King Narmacil II dies fighting them but I wasn't being floral with my language

it's not in LotR but in another book where they talk about a special bond between Gondor and a close neighbor.

Posted: **Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:50 pm**

It was King Ondoher, I believe? Cirion and Eorl, UT.

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 12:19 am**

Drifa wrote: ↑Thu Feb 03, 2022 11:50 pm It was King Ondoher, I believe? Cirion and Eorl, UT.

Yep

"Ondoher was utterly unprepared to meet a charge of horsemen and chariots in great weight. With his guard and his banner he had hastily taken up a position on a low knoll, but this was to no avail. The main charge was hurled against his banner, and it was captured, his Guard was almost annihilated, and he himself was slain and his son Artamir at his side." (The Unfinished Tales, Cirion and Eorl)

One of the few examples of explicit chariot combat in Tolkien despite the historical ubiquity of chariots, I think the Wainriders are the only ones described as using them.

Floor is yours @Drifa

Posted: **Fri Feb 04, 2022 11:22 am**

Thanks! He died with both his sons—another tragedy.

Because of the unnatural gloom, creatures roamed other woods, moving from other places. Who thought and said this?

Posted: **Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:01 pm**

Oh, this is a tantalizing one @Drifa

...there are several locations that are described as gloomy. "Unnatural gloom" narrows things down and makes me think of the gloom is caused by sorcery.

I've skimmed over a few chapters, and can't find much, so I'm going to take a stab, make an educated guess...Treebeard calls Isengard "the Land of gloom" because of the changes Saruman makes to the place. (The Two Towers: Treebeard)

Posted: **Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:35 pm**

No, that is not the answer I am looking for, @Boromir88

. How about beasts in place of creatures as a hint.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 4:57 pm**

I think we may need another hint @Drifa

I was thinking part of the old forest with the barrow-wights and Tom Bombadil or the Drúadan Forest and Ghân-buri-Ghân and yeah something with Fangorn & Treebeard but nothing which quite matches the prompt.

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 9:50 pm**

Okay, here is a hint. The person's name who thought and said this starts with the letter A. Good luck!

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:34 pm**

Throwing in a random guess here, but :

‘It was too dark for sure shooting anyway, and the creature was gone into the gloom of the leaves in a twinkling. But I stayed for a while, for it seemed strange, and then I hastened back. I thought I heard the thing hiss at me from high above as I turned away. A large squirrel, maybe. Perhaps under the shadow of the Unnamed some of the beasts of Mirkwood are wandering hither to our woods. They have black squirrels there, 'tis said.'’

So spoke Anborn, ranger of Faramir’s company, in the Chapter, ‘Window on the West, in TTT

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 10:48 pm**

You are correct! Right on, Ercassie! I couldn't have said it better!

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:25 pm**

Question : Who would have their old friend believe that he still would save them and deliver them from the ruin that drew nigh ?

Posted: **Tue Feb 08, 2022 11:48 pm**

Answer: Saruman

"Despite the injuries that have been done to me, in which the men of Rohan, alas! have had some part, still I would save you, and deliver you from the ruin that draws nigh inevitably, if you ride upon this road which you have taken. Indeed I alone can aid you now." (The Two Towers, The Voice of Saruman)

In this case it's Saruman speaking with Théoden.

Posted: **Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:02 am**

Exactly right, @Romeran. Well done. Your turn !

Posted: **Wed Feb 09, 2022 12:13 am**

The problem with answering trivia questions and riddles is now I have to come up with one

Question: Who thought something was far more likely than the return of the King?

Posted: **Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:33 pm**

This is really bugging me. I feel like the answer is just beyond the reach of memory, and none of my reading is providing an answer!

Posted: **Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:40 pm**

Oh but this one is so close to home for you

Posted: **Wed Feb 09, 2022 7:50 pm**

Arrghhh. A dose of my own medicine. I so enjoyed watching you all LOTRs it on my riddle and now I've been reading what Denethor and Faramir and even Barliman Butterbur had to say about Aragorn!

The Master of Laketown thinks the dwarves are far more likely wandering vagabonds.

No wonder it was nagging at the back of my mind!

Posted: **Wed Feb 09, 2022 8:00 pm**

Small taste of your own medicine indeed! I did sort of intentionally try to distract people from the real answer by using the words "return of the king" hoping it would get people thinking more about Aragorn than Thorin.

I'm going to be a minor stickler over the rules but "but both a book and chapter title reference must be provided" please!

Your answer is correct and I have no doubt you'll be able to provide the chapter so @Chrysophylax Dives it's your turn

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