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Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:22 pm
by Zôrzimril
Oh, one more - R16 was Dragon-Helm's.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:25 pm
by Eriol
Thank you, @Tarawen and @Winddancer !
I see Arwen for Gondor. Is there the Arwen ruler rank for Eriador, too? @Quill was asking me earlier yodsh if I had it saved.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:27 pm
by Lirimaer
I have a feeling you will find a few I'm missing on your trip through the archives !! I'll add them when I'm awake, promise!
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:50 pm
by Winddancer
I3: Arlo around 2003ish
I10: Alkthoniel/Donrufie 2002ish
K12: Gimli - Loki Teshvara 2003ish
K7: Thorin Oakenshield - Marin Sandbrow 2003ish
R3: ~Lanahar~ 2003ish
R11: Eowyn of Rohan 2003ish
W2: Elen Sila 2003ish
W9: Mirluin Ererana 2003ish
S11: Banazir 2003ish
S5: Seregon 2003ish
F13: Treebeard - Collecthor 2003ish
F5 Fimbrethil - Marina 2003ish
M4: Sauron - Uroloki (still think it was Mandallah too) 2002-2003
M12: WK - Morgorth (he is showing as having this on the KP in 2003, though minions tended to share icons in the beginning) 2003
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:03 am
by Dimcairien Luiniel
Most of my name/icon relations are coming from the Wayback. I do not have this good of memory.
L9 Galadriel: is @Dincairwen?
R16 Theoden was Dragonhelm
M8 Sauron was Laielinwen
W13 Sauroman - Rowena Annis
O6 is Cirdan, which I believe is an Erirdor icons - Merl Moriestiel
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:12 am
by Winddancer
List of once admins/rulers and some bio's (give it time to load):
http://web.archive.org/web/200304181256 ... alinorweb/
http://web.archive.org/web/200401191846 ... alinorweb/
K1: Balin son of Fundin - Annolori 2003ish
K7: Durin the Deathless - Marin (she switched to new icon when joining up with Anno)
S11 is also showing as BB's 2003ish
S6: Rose Cotton/Rosebud as Rose Cotton 2003ish
F9: Quickbeam - Glingol 2003ish
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:51 am
by Dincairwen
Dimcairien Luiniel wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:03 am
Most of my name/icon relations are coming from the Wayback. I do not have this good of memory.
L9 Galadriel: is @Dincairwen?
R16 Theoden was Dragonhelm
M8 Sauron was Laielinwen
W13 Sauroman - Rowena Annis
O6 is Cirdan, which I believe is an Erirdor icons - Merl Moriestiel
Yep, L9 Galadriel was me, both times I'm pretty sure.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:34 am
by Dwim
@Lirimaer, yes sorry, I meant O10!
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:37 am
by Dwim
Oh and K8 was Dain II Ironfoot, also worn by myself and Aisil Dagda as Wilderland rulers rather than KD.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:39 am
by Dimcairien Luiniel
I found this Smaug icon earlier today. It was given to Roh in August 2012.

Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:18 am
by Li.
Winddancer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 8:12 pm
@Li.
Just for you :)
Emeritus
You're a bloomin star

Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:47 am
by Pele Alarion
@Tarawen Oooo, Faramir! I started some time by mid 2011.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:25 pm
by Túrin
Moriel wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 10:12 pm
M14 - Grishnak
M8 - Laielinwen
M16 - Sil
M10 - Inzilbêth
M12 - Winddancer
M4 - Mo Mandallah, Windy remembered better than me
M15 - Uruva
M1 - Lulani
I think those are all correct, there's some others I'm not sure on and will have to go back and look! Other minions (or whoever) feel free to double check me.
Also
@Winddancer.
- Didn't Mandallah use the same Sauron icon as Mo?
- I used M8, and I'm fairly sure that Loke did as well (IIRC, I requested his same icon). I don't remember Lailenwen's icon, maybe it was the same, or maybe it was the "darker" version M7?
- I thought that Inzilbeth had M6 and M12
- Narguzir had M5
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:32 pm
by Winddancer
@Túrin yes he did, he definitely got archived with the M4
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:07 pm
by Quill
Aig found my Arwen icon from when we were rulers in Eriador together!
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 3:09 pm
by Zôrzimril
Awww yay @Quill ! I remember that one.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:21 pm
by Lirimaer
Um - just for my own sanity, I've moved the ruler icon hunt to a new thread,
HERE
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 10:44 pm
by Silky Gooseness
Found this don’t know who it is
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:46 pm
by Celebrin
hey, so randomly found this snooping around. I made this game way back that I never ended up created but I stole a bunch of the icons to make it, and going through this thread I found some were nameless and some were missing. This is what I can contribute:

this is Amdir of Lorien

Amroth of Lorien

Laifennas of Lorien

Mithrellas of Lorien

Ancalagon of Mordor

Glaurung of Mordor

Gothmog of Mordor

Mumak of Mordor

Mumak Commander of Mordor

this I'm 90% sure was Amalric's Celeborn icon

Witch-king ruler icon for Mordor

and Sauron ruler icon for Mordor
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2020 11:57 pm
by Lirimaer
OH MY!!!! I want to shower you with ...
These will make my charts so much more DONE! YAY!

Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:09 am
by Celebrin
happy chance that I once upon a time wanted to make a game but I figured it wasn't going to get enough participation and it would have taken too much attention to run. I'm thinking Amalric changed his icon at some point to or from that one I posted there.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:29 am
by Lail
I ran across 2 icons in the archives today I am not sure I've seen here:

Grima Wormtongue - Rohan SCR
(edit whoops - this may have been shared with Isengard)

Maglor - ?? I am not sure what "rank" this one was for.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:33 am
by Quill
I'm pretty sure Maglor was worn by Ailaya Nydrian/Nabooru! She was a Maia in the PFF when I was.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:47 am
by Winddancer
Found Beruthiel, was worn by Aisil Laegiel in 2010

Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:54 am
by Lirimaer
Big love, WD!! <£
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:26 pm
by Winddancer
Minstrell was Tom Bombadil from 2002 onwards, was saved with this icon in mid 2002
I know you have it already, just giving the date and person.
Omg look at this old MT one >.<

Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:55 pm
by Winddancer
This was Morim's Fladrif mid 2004
Also had this saved to his name, Treebeard mid 2004
This is saved as being Dimhold, not Old man Willow in mid 2004
Erucolindo as Finglas saved mid 2004
Another Librarian, saved to Ander mid 2004, 2nd 2005
Feawen sported the redhaired version 2005
One of the ATR threads, working:
http://web.archive.org/web/200504142346 ... Position=1
Guess MT had Shrek as Halloween icons saved 2005
And Snoopy for Rohan saved 2005
Rohan 2007

Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 2:57 pm
by Winddancer
Fangorn 2007 Norbert the Norwegian Ridgeback
MT? 2007 Antonin Dolohov
The Plaza Librarian had this saved early 2007
This gives some timelines:
http://web.archive.org/web/201002111315 ... TID=211846
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 4:57 pm
by Lirimaer
OMW/Dimhold - I knew I'd seen it named something different somewhere but never found it again. Clearly we recycled a lot of icons.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2020 9:37 pm
by Lirimaer
So anyway I made something(s) ... Oh dearie dearie me.
I'll be in the corner.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:33 pm
by Oak
Go stand in the corner! JK. They do look nice. I am thinking of we do give unique icons to staff, they should be related to what kingdom they are in- not be Valar. Just my two cents worth.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:42 pm
by Oak
@Lirimaer F-3 was used as the Huorness of Fangorn SCR. That is why you couldn't find the icon for it.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:34 pm
by Lirimaer
I think it would be lovely to RP the Valar ... I would like to have a go making icons for Valar SCRs (she said, with no photoshop) (but mad skillz obvsly, see above!).
I suppose the new admin team will have their own thoughts about admin icons ... I guess we'll see what they wanna do.
Oak wrote: ↑Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:42 pm
F-3 was used as the Huorness of Fangorn SCR. That is why you couldn't find the icon for it.
OOOh - really? You mean F3 of the rulers?
That's interesting. I think I can do a little jiggery-pokery and fix/re-make that ATR.
Thanks!
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 4:09 pm
by Oak
Yep. It was used as an SCR when the rulers were not using it. It was the last of the Fimbrethil icons made before the Plaza restructure too. I think I was the only person that was given it as an SCR.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 2:22 am
by Burnt Toast
I really appreciate (and by that I mean-- it's obnoxious, but also hilarious) the fact that the Plaza maintained the Halloween icons over the regular ones in so many cases- I keep seeing them across threads sporadically in the way back machine. Does anyone know why that occurs? What causes the Wayback Machine to take snapshots sometimes, but in others just lead to a broken link?
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 11:21 am
by Lirimaer
Some of the SCRs were never changed back to the regular ones - I think the R/A team just got bored of switching them in and out/ or giving them out, I think, in the end.
I can't give you an answer on the other icons.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 8:55 pm
by Elarith
These might’ve been found but I didn’t spot them here.
I’m not sure if this was a Mordor SCR or an ATR but found this Thuringwethil earlier:
Also a Goldberry Maia icon from

Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:29 pm
by Lirimaer
We have them in the appropriate Project threads, Elarith.

Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 11:49 pm
by Elarith
Ah, thanks Lirimaer! Should've looked more thoroughly.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:04 pm
by Lirimaer
Nah, there's so many of these threads and icons it's hard to keep track of them, even if you are looking.
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 5:19 pm
by Winddancer
No worries @Elarith :D We would rather have them posted more than once than miss some <3
Re: Icon Workshop
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:05 am
by Dimcairien Luiniel
I don't have the time at this exact moment to go through and try to pull out all the ruler/admin/maiar ranks (if any) that we still don't have in the various History Project threads, but here's the link to the the Wayback for the "ranks and privileges" pages.
http://web.archive.org/web/200205010000 ... /ranks.asp
There are quite a few ones in there (especially in the really old saves from 2002) that I don't think we have. Some icons might be better not coming back into the light of day, but then, they might be fun to see. I've certainly had a lot of laughs.
Would it be a good idea to create a thread to put all the old Kingdom icons in? I know a few kingdoms have them in their archive threads, but having a "library" of them might be good as well.
And here is the thread for the Regions "ranks and privileges" Wayback.
http://web.archive.org/web/2011*/http:/ ... /ranks.asp